Interview with JZ Knight
by Phyllis Galde
FATE | Jan-Feb 2009

What would you do if an eight-foot tall glowing, handsome male being appeared in front of you? As a young married housewife, Judith Darlene was stunned, nearly in shock, and speechless.

This radiant being, who called himself Ramtha, became a very important part of this woman’s life and spiritual development. She is now known throughout the world as JZ Knight, and has come a long way from a hardscrabble life in the South. She was born in 1946 in Roswell,  New Mexico, and moved with her family to Texas where work in the cotton fields provided a meager sustenance, living in a state of poverty in a poor shack.

JZ grew up with many hardships and obstacles. Loneliness, disease, and prejudice were some of her teachers. She has been married three times, and has two sons.

She had an extraordinary UFO experience in high school, underwent a miraculous healing, and now can see into other dimensions.

JZ overcame the challenges in her youth and went on to become a successful businesswoman. She has encountered her share of controversy over the years.

Friend to many celebrities, her most important companion is the spirit being Ramtha, a 35,000-year-old Lemurian warrior. He has been with her since 1977, guiding her path and enlightening countless others at her school in Yelm, Washington.

I was invited to her home for an interview, and found JZ to be a warm and gracious hostess. Although she claims to be a simple, common woman, she has much wisdom.

Ramtha, through JZ, coined the term “channeling” and brought it into the American lexicon. It was important to introduce a proper name for what JZ was experiencing. Even so, the meaning is often misunderstood.

When JZ channels Ramtha, she does not go to sleep or into a trance. “I leave my body, like a near-death experience,” says Knight. “I didn’t like the cosmology of New Age concepts on life at the time I began channeling because that wasn’t what I was experiencing… I’m actually having an NDE, and I’m going to the light. I go down a tunnel.”

Ramtha has told her, “When you’re out, you’re down that wall of light, that tunnel, then the body is being kept alive and I am going to use the body. I am not in the body; I’m just working the program in the brain.” Ramtha operates JZ’s body like a programmer on a computer.

Early on in their work, Ramtha predicted: “One day people will come and they will test me and they will test the message and they will prove my existence.” In 1996 this actually happened: a study was begun with experts from Saybrook Graduate School & Research Center. JZ underwent a battery of tests. Dr. Stanley Krippner and religious scholar J. Gordon Melton were involved.

Melton identified Ramtha’s teachings as Gnosticism, an ancient wisdom tradition wiped out as a heresy by the early Christian church. “Melton saw him teach in three hours what has been lost to scholars for ages,” relates JZ. “The Tree of Life…God as in one’s being. He saw a brilliant display of Ramtha teaching that for three hours without notes.” Melton was convinced that Ramtha was an extraordinary entity.

Melton invited scholars of every persuasion that Ramtha teaches, “From history to biology, to neurobiology, to quantum physics, etc., because Ramtha talked about the kingdom of heaven in terms of quantum reality. The god within in terms of the observer effect in physics.”

JZ agreed to undergo one of the most sophisticated lie-detector tests available at the time. She was wired to electrodes that monitored various physiological parameters: blood flow, temperature, and other physiological responses beyond conscious control.

“We have you wired,” the researchers announced when all was ready. “You can go into a trance.”

“Gentlemen,” JZ told them, “I’m leaving my body. I’m not going into a trance.”

When JZ left her body and Ramtha took over, there was confusion. The readings dropped off the scale and the computer shut down to reconfigure, as if a completely different individual were now being tested. The scientists thought it had to be a malfunction. They had already done baseline readings on JZ several times.

Suddenly Ramtha was present, looking at them through JZ’s eyes. There was a new user on the computer.

The researchers panicked. “There’s another being here,” they said. “This is crazy. This is not happening.”

“So he talked to them,” says Knight. “He was telling them about their lives and what they should be doing.”

After this was over, JZ returned to her body. Melton was smiling.

“How was it?” Knight asked.

“One thing we know,” replied Melton. “It isn’t you. We just eliminated the possibility that you’re faking. There’s no way.” (continued...)